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	<description>"The true Christian is a warrior, making his way through the regiments of the invisible enemy to his heavenly homeland"- St. Herman of Alaska</description>
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		<title>Comment on Heartache- turmoil roils the Church in Alaska. UPDATE by New chapter in Alaska&#8217;s Russian Orthodox Church &#171; Alaskan Orthodox Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>New chapter in Alaska&#8217;s Russian Orthodox Church &#171; Alaskan Orthodox Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 22:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Russian Orthodox&#160;Church  Posted on May 13, 2008 by johndoetoo   Since I brought this up in an earlier post, it makes sense for the sake of continuity and closure to report on the final outcome to this most [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Holy Reenactors by John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 22:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Mary-Leah... Indeed He is risen indeed, in spite of everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Mary-Leah&#8230; Indeed He is risen indeed, in spite of everything.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Holy Reenactors by handmaid</title>
		<link>http://amorthpat.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/holy-reenactors/#comment-208</link>
		<dc:creator>handmaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 17:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"...hurrying to church, finding a place in the crowded darkness. The lights are extinguished, and it seems you are aware even of the vibration of the air molecules. The candle of the Presence over the altar is slowly lowered; the priests light their candles from it, turn to face the congregation, and then sing the haunting melody..."

That precious moment when our priest sings: 

Thy Resurrection O Christ our Saviour-
The angels in Heaven sing-
Enable us on earth-
To glorify Thee in purity of heart!

This is the moment when darkness turns to Light and I anticipate it every year.

Thank you for a good post -

Christ is Risen!
Indeed He is Risen!
the handmaid,
Mary-Leah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;hurrying to church, finding a place in the crowded darkness. The lights are extinguished, and it seems you are aware even of the vibration of the air molecules. The candle of the Presence over the altar is slowly lowered; the priests light their candles from it, turn to face the congregation, and then sing the haunting melody&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>That precious moment when our priest sings: </p>
<p>Thy Resurrection O Christ our Saviour-<br />
The angels in Heaven sing-<br />
Enable us on earth-<br />
To glorify Thee in purity of heart!</p>
<p>This is the moment when darkness turns to Light and I anticipate it every year.</p>
<p>Thank you for a good post -</p>
<p>Christ is Risen!<br />
Indeed He is Risen!<br />
the handmaid,<br />
Mary-Leah</p>
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		<title>Comment on Unhinged liberal racism. by johndoetoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>johndoetoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 20:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Steve- I appreciate hearing from you with another "POV".  I take it you're on the "Bayou Buzz" staff? Good creds!  My day job doesn't give me the time to do much in the way of digging into the pros &#38; cons of issues and people, so I'd really be delighted if someone else out there sees this and can respond to what look like legitimate issues.

Only comment I can make is that I haven't seen anything that indicates he is actively pursing the VP nomination- in fact, just the opposite.  People can't help it if other people talk about them... just like our Gov. Sarah Palin up here.

POSTSCRIPT: Ran out of time on my lunch break to write more, but wanted to point out that Steve's objections are of the sort that are part of the normal, legitimate and CIVIL give-and-take of politics as it ought to be practiced.  I had never even heard of Bobby Jindal when I wrote the original post- I wasn't taking a pro or con position towards him one way or the other.  What I was noting was the raging, venomous, irrational hatred and racism displayed by liberals when a "person of color" affiliates with the "wrong" (i.e., conservative) side of the political spectrum.  You can almost hear them choking on their spittle as they scream "Don't y'all know you colored people belong to US???  Get back over here where you belong!"

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Steve- I appreciate hearing from you with another &#8220;POV&#8221;.  I take it you&#8217;re on the &#8220;Bayou Buzz&#8221; staff? Good creds!  My day job doesn&#8217;t give me the time to do much in the way of digging into the pros &amp; cons of issues and people, so I&#8217;d really be delighted if someone else out there sees this and can respond to what look like legitimate issues.</p>
<p>Only comment I can make is that I haven&#8217;t seen anything that indicates he is actively pursing the VP nomination- in fact, just the opposite.  People can&#8217;t help it if other people talk about them&#8230; just like our Gov. Sarah Palin up here.</p>
<p>POSTSCRIPT: Ran out of time on my lunch break to write more, but wanted to point out that Steve&#8217;s objections are of the sort that are part of the normal, legitimate and CIVIL give-and-take of politics as it ought to be practiced.  I had never even heard of Bobby Jindal when I wrote the original post- I wasn&#8217;t taking a pro or con position towards him one way or the other.  What I was noting was the raging, venomous, irrational hatred and racism displayed by liberals when a &#8220;person of color&#8221; affiliates with the &#8220;wrong&#8221; (i.e., conservative) side of the political spectrum.  You can almost hear them choking on their spittle as they scream &#8220;Don&#8217;t y&#8217;all know you colored people belong to US???  Get back over here where you belong!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Unhinged liberal racism. by Steve Sandowsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Sandowsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 17:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Piyush ‘Bobby’ Jindals 100 + day as governor of Louisiana track record: Ethics reform? -0-…… Pretty much all he managed to get done on that issue was it is now forbidden for anyone to give state legislatures ‘Hannah Montanah’ concert tickets or football tickets ‘free of charge’. period………. Public dislosure? Nothing on that yet either. Couldn’t even impose a $50.00 limit on ‘free lunches’ for legislatures….. Jindals actions as a Congressional Representative aside from taking actions that would allow him to abandon the post and duties he swore to uphold so that he could run for Governor? H.R. 6111………. December, 2006…. On the surface it was for Medicare and health care….. Laying submerged below the water was Offshore Oil and Gas Royalties….. In Federal waters…. Somehow all of the proceeds of the oil and gas royalties in federal offshore waters are going to be given to Louisiana, and Louisiana alone to a very high degree… The rest of the States can forget portions of those revenues, which could have helped pay for Medicare and Healthcare related costs, but instead, those costs are to be born by the other 49 States as well. So…. Analogy,,,, Double dipping……… And then there is the matter of Strongconcrete, or; www.strongconcrete.com… On page 12 of that website there are rather generous provisions of aid for the state of Louisiana that would save taxpayers, state and federal alike, a fairly substantial amount of money…. No moves have been made by the Jindal administration on this yet….. And the potentials for reduced cost evironmental calamities protection being made readily available in the near future to other states of the United States are seemingly ‘drowned’ as well. So it would appear that while there is everything available for Louisiana, nothing for the rest of the United States is offered in return, including royalties from oil and gas that doesn’t even exist in Louisiana territorial waters, but are located in Federal waters instead….. One item of note, according to the patent information relating to strongconcrete.com there are provisions for a lower cost flood protection barrier that has applications in the San Joaquin Valley Delta Region of California….. One of the largest agricultural regions of the United States… There is a fairly large distinction between being ‘conservative’ and plain old ’selfish’. For him to jump from his role of Governor to pursue the role of V.P. in midstride, much in the same way as he made a jump from Congressional Representative to the Governors chair would simply bear him out as what he truely is “A really nice self serving ambitious ladder climber that has no concern or care for those he is supposed to care for as he performs his duties he was elected to do” But then again, a V.P. really doesn’t have to do all that much, unless of course we have a repeat of 1945, or heaven forbid, 1963 or 1974 (which is unlikely)…….</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Piyush ‘Bobby’ Jindals 100 + day as governor of Louisiana track record: Ethics reform? -0-…… Pretty much all he managed to get done on that issue was it is now forbidden for anyone to give state legislatures ‘Hannah Montanah’ concert tickets or football tickets ‘free of charge’. period………. Public dislosure? Nothing on that yet either. Couldn’t even impose a $50.00 limit on ‘free lunches’ for legislatures….. Jindals actions as a Congressional Representative aside from taking actions that would allow him to abandon the post and duties he swore to uphold so that he could run for Governor? H.R. 6111………. December, 2006…. On the surface it was for Medicare and health care….. Laying submerged below the water was Offshore Oil and Gas Royalties….. In Federal waters…. Somehow all of the proceeds of the oil and gas royalties in federal offshore waters are going to be given to Louisiana, and Louisiana alone to a very high degree… The rest of the States can forget portions of those revenues, which could have helped pay for Medicare and Healthcare related costs, but instead, those costs are to be born by the other 49 States as well. So…. Analogy,,,, Double dipping……… And then there is the matter of Strongconcrete, or; <a href="http://www.strongconcrete.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.strongconcrete.com</a>… On page 12 of that website there are rather generous provisions of aid for the state of Louisiana that would save taxpayers, state and federal alike, a fairly substantial amount of money…. No moves have been made by the Jindal administration on this yet….. And the potentials for reduced cost evironmental calamities protection being made readily available in the near future to other states of the United States are seemingly ‘drowned’ as well. So it would appear that while there is everything available for Louisiana, nothing for the rest of the United States is offered in return, including royalties from oil and gas that doesn’t even exist in Louisiana territorial waters, but are located in Federal waters instead….. One item of note, according to the patent information relating to strongconcrete.com there are provisions for a lower cost flood protection barrier that has applications in the San Joaquin Valley Delta Region of California….. One of the largest agricultural regions of the United States… There is a fairly large distinction between being ‘conservative’ and plain old ’selfish’. For him to jump from his role of Governor to pursue the role of V.P. in midstride, much in the same way as he made a jump from Congressional Representative to the Governors chair would simply bear him out as what he truely is “A really nice self serving ambitious ladder climber that has no concern or care for those he is supposed to care for as he performs his duties he was elected to do” But then again, a V.P. really doesn’t have to do all that much, unless of course we have a repeat of 1945, or heaven forbid, 1963 or 1974 (which is unlikely)…….</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Folly of Faith-Based Science by johndoetoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>johndoetoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, has anyone ever heard of a researcher who didn't complain that his work had the potential for amazing results if only he could have more money?  "Only " $39 million dollars... and what of non-NIH sources?  Again, the real roadblocks that they themselves acknowledge in their research are technical, not financial.

The "New Scientist" article is subscription only, so couldn't read that one.  I notice that the quote says that "ESC's remain the gold standard for pluripotent cells", not the gold standard for therapeutic applications.  To focus on pluripotency is to miss the point- and reinforces the point that ESC research is mainly about solving intriguing questions in pure (vs. applied) science.

Pluripotency has a high "cool"factor, it's "sexy science", but it appears that it is increasingly irrelevant in the face of advances in ASC successes.

And the other link to the blog post seemed to say "Look!  We've finally succeeded in doing something that ASC already does!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, has anyone ever heard of a researcher who didn&#8217;t complain that his work had the potential for amazing results if only he could have more money?  &#8220;Only &#8221; $39 million dollars&#8230; and what of non-NIH sources?  Again, the real roadblocks that they themselves acknowledge in their research are technical, not financial.</p>
<p>The &#8220;New Scientist&#8221; article is subscription only, so couldn&#8217;t read that one.  I notice that the quote says that &#8220;ESC&#8217;s remain the gold standard for pluripotent cells&#8221;, not the gold standard for therapeutic applications.  To focus on pluripotency is to miss the point- and reinforces the point that ESC research is mainly about solving intriguing questions in pure (vs. applied) science.</p>
<p>Pluripotency has a high &#8220;cool&#8221;factor, it&#8217;s &#8220;sexy science&#8221;, but it appears that it is increasingly irrelevant in the face of advances in ASC successes.</p>
<p>And the other link to the blog post seemed to say &#8220;Look!  We&#8217;ve finally succeeded in doing something that ASC already does!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Folly of Faith-Based Science by Joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 11:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I must have misread that FAQ. Anyway, researchers have complained many times about federal funding being restricted only to embryonic cell lines created before that date in 2001. And despite the fact the senate has repeatedly listened to scientists who want to be able to use new cell lines (even those already existing from IVF) rather than the old, less-viable ones, President Bush repeatedly vetoed their bills.

As a consequence, of the $607 million of NIH funding provided in 2005 for stem cell research, only $39 million was used for human embryonic stem cells. And then you wonder why embryonic stem cell research isn't yielding amazing results...

There is an editorial in the current issue of New Scientist, titled 'Still no substitute for embryonic stem cells' , which says: "ESCs remain the gold standard for pluripotent cells" (link: http://www.newscientist.com/channel/opinion/mg19826542.700-editorial-still-no-substitute-for-embryonic-stem-cells.html). This is a common opinion among researchers - ASCs are easier to get funding for, and easier to get consent for, but ESCs have the potential to be so much better.

It appears either my html isn't working, or it isn't allowed, but the link I tried to give was this one from my blog: http://hplusbiopolitics.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/embryonic-stem-cells-can-cure/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I must have misread that FAQ. Anyway, researchers have complained many times about federal funding being restricted only to embryonic cell lines created before that date in 2001. And despite the fact the senate has repeatedly listened to scientists who want to be able to use new cell lines (even those already existing from IVF) rather than the old, less-viable ones, President Bush repeatedly vetoed their bills.</p>
<p>As a consequence, of the $607 million of NIH funding provided in 2005 for stem cell research, only $39 million was used for human embryonic stem cells. And then you wonder why embryonic stem cell research isn&#8217;t yielding amazing results&#8230;</p>
<p>There is an editorial in the current issue of New Scientist, titled &#8216;Still no substitute for embryonic stem cells&#8217; , which says: &#8220;ESCs remain the gold standard for pluripotent cells&#8221; (link: <a href="http://www.newscientist.com/channel/opinion/mg19826542.700-editorial-still-no-substitute-for-embryonic-stem-cells.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.newscientist.com/channel/opinion/mg19826542.700-editorial-still-no-substitute-for-embryonic-stem-cells.html</a>). This is a common opinion among researchers - ASCs are easier to get funding for, and easier to get consent for, but ESCs have the potential to be so much better.</p>
<p>It appears either my html isn&#8217;t working, or it isn&#8217;t allowed, but the link I tried to give was this one from my blog: <a href="http://hplusbiopolitics.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/embryonic-stem-cells-can-cure/" rel="nofollow">http://hplusbiopolitics.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/embryonic-stem-cells-can-cure/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Folly of Faith-Based Science by John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 07:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odd...if they are pointing the finger at President Bush, it is clear- to me at least- that they are giving him credit for being the first to make any federal funds available for hESC research.

It looks like you meant to create a hyperlink in your last paragraph- the phrase "cure diseases in animal models" looks like a hyperlink, but doesn't connect anywhere.  Can you correct that?

Even so, it seems a curious phrase- animal "models".  What are those?  Presumably not actual animals, just animal "models"?  When will cures in actual animals occur?  Not to mention actual human beings?

Well, in Mr. Fumento's article he quotes a British fertility expert (and ESC researcher) Professor Lord Robert Winston saying in a 2005 lecture, "I am not entirely convinced that embryonic stem cells will, in my lifetime, and possibly anybody's lifetime for that matter, be holding quite the promise that we desperately hope they will".  He then let the cat out of the bag when he followed up with this  explanation: "One of the problems is that in order to persuade the public that we must do this work, we often go rather too far in promising what we might achieve", i.e., in order to persuade the public, we deceive the public. 

The roadblocks to the applicability of ESC's are biological, not financial.  "But give ESC research enough money and we can- (eventually)- solve the biology!" it's advocates say.

Meanwhile, ASC's are used &lt;em&gt;today&lt;/em&gt; in over 70 treatments or cures, are being tested in over 1300 human clinical trials, and more trials are being approved monthly.  So the argument sounds like this- if we take away enough money from what works now, and pour it into what doesn't work, we might/ perhaps/ possibly/ surely ought to be able some day to make it do... something wonderful.

That does not sound at all rational, so again I ask- whose science is more "faith-based"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odd&#8230;if they are pointing the finger at President Bush, it is clear- to me at least- that they are giving him credit for being the first to make any federal funds available for hESC research.</p>
<p>It looks like you meant to create a hyperlink in your last paragraph- the phrase &#8220;cure diseases in animal models&#8221; looks like a hyperlink, but doesn&#8217;t connect anywhere.  Can you correct that?</p>
<p>Even so, it seems a curious phrase- animal &#8220;models&#8221;.  What are those?  Presumably not actual animals, just animal &#8220;models&#8221;?  When will cures in actual animals occur?  Not to mention actual human beings?</p>
<p>Well, in Mr. Fumento&#8217;s article he quotes a British fertility expert (and ESC researcher) Professor Lord Robert Winston saying in a 2005 lecture, &#8220;I am not entirely convinced that embryonic stem cells will, in my lifetime, and possibly anybody&#8217;s lifetime for that matter, be holding quite the promise that we desperately hope they will&#8221;.  He then let the cat out of the bag when he followed up with this  explanation: &#8220;One of the problems is that in order to persuade the public that we must do this work, we often go rather too far in promising what we might achieve&#8221;, i.e., in order to persuade the public, we deceive the public. </p>
<p>The roadblocks to the applicability of ESC&#8217;s are biological, not financial.  &#8220;But give ESC research enough money and we can- (eventually)- solve the biology!&#8221; it&#8217;s advocates say.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, ASC&#8217;s are used <em>today</em> in over 70 treatments or cures, are being tested in over 1300 human clinical trials, and more trials are being approved monthly.  So the argument sounds like this- if we take away enough money from what works now, and pour it into what doesn&#8217;t work, we might/ perhaps/ possibly/ surely ought to be able some day to make it do&#8230; something wonderful.</p>
<p>That does not sound at all rational, so again I ask- whose science is more &#8220;faith-based&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Folly of Faith-Based Science by Joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 22:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you go to the National Institute of Health, and look at their &lt;a&gt;Stem Cell FAQ&lt;/a&gt; (if that link doesn't work, it is at http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/faqs.asp ). 

Under "Have human embryonic stem cells been used successfully to treat any human diseases yet?" the answer clearly points the finger at President Bush's restrictions on federal funding.

I mean, we know that ESCs can &lt;a&gt;cure diseases in animal models&lt;/a&gt;. Surely if the researchers in the US and Europe had federal funding at their disposal, they could have cured many human patients by now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you go to the National Institute of Health, and look at their <a>Stem Cell FAQ</a> (if that link doesn&#8217;t work, it is at <a href="http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/faqs.asp" rel="nofollow">http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/faqs.asp</a> ). </p>
<p>Under &#8220;Have human embryonic stem cells been used successfully to treat any human diseases yet?&#8221; the answer clearly points the finger at President Bush&#8217;s restrictions on federal funding.</p>
<p>I mean, we know that ESCs can <a>cure diseases in animal models</a>. Surely if the researchers in the US and Europe had federal funding at their disposal, they could have cured many human patients by now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Folly of Faith-Based Science by johndoetoo</title>
		<link>http://amorthpat.wordpress.com/2008/05/04/the-folly-of-faith-based-science/#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator>johndoetoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 15:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I recall (can't find where I laid the magazine this morning) not a single researcher claimed that the their forecasts (of when we could expect applicable results) were affected by inadequate funding.  This raises another point the author made- that ESC research is for the most part theoretical, pure science being done by micro biologists, etc, trying to solve intriguing theoretical challenges.  The ASC work on the other hand is being done by medical doctors and those on the daily front lines of finding cures that work NOW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I recall (can&#8217;t find where I laid the magazine this morning) not a single researcher claimed that the their forecasts (of when we could expect applicable results) were affected by inadequate funding.  This raises another point the author made- that ESC research is for the most part theoretical, pure science being done by micro biologists, etc, trying to solve intriguing theoretical challenges.  The ASC work on the other hand is being done by medical doctors and those on the daily front lines of finding cures that work NOW.</p>
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